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Poster: vapors Date: Jul 2, 2011 4:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Commemorating Dylan & the Dead

Commemorate may be too strong a word, but 25 years ago today Bob Dylan joined the boys on stage for the first time. There is no denying Jerry’s appreciation for Dylan’s work, and apart from the miserable things that could be said about this show or tour or year it was still a historic moment. We are all painfully aware of Jerry’s poor condition – perhaps it could have come off better and today we would be graced with phenomenal recordings of some undeniably important musicians playing together.

Again caught in the quandary of The Listening to the Recording today vs. The Experience of Being There back then … I saw every Dylan and the Dead show in 1987, and likewise every show the previous summer tour with the Heartbreakers. I don’t deny that these weren’t extraordinary performances, nor do I want to be arrogant about being there, but I surely was glad to be on that mail train . . . (can’t buy a thrill.)

At the time it was incredible for me to witness Dylan playing with the Dead. I knew (or rather, I know now!) it may not have been the most amazing sonic expression of some great songwriting, but that didn’t hinder my enjoyment of the presentation. Today I still fondly recall the sweet smiley feeling I had gently dancing to Baby Tonight at JFK (7/10/87.)

I know this isn’t a great post about a great show, but - I will not edit or delete, I will not edit or delete ... side-note to Althea and micah – the only show the Dead played in Akron :)

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Poster: deadheadnorway Date: Jul 2, 2011 5:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commemorating Dylan & the Dead

I know it`s not to everyones taste, but I kinda like the Dylan and the Dead album.

Happy weekend everyone.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 2, 2011 5:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commemorating Dylan & the Dead/ Hey AR

For the close alone, I love you. And you have the power not to fret over posts. You will fuck up anyway, eventually, either way. Just say you are sorry (gotta mean it though). And thanks for the Akron date!

Hey AR, See. You and your anti-Akronphobia. The GD thought it was good enough. What if two Akron's want to get married, or have a child? Hmmm. What if Akron would like to buy a cushy house in Cleveland suburbs? Does AR have the red line out? What if Akron wants to be President someday? Comments like yours keep a good Akron down. You just want Akron barefoot and pregnant, don't you?

As penance (and please call me Cardinal Richelieu)

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1986-07-02.fob.thompson.motb.82519.flac16

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 2, 2011 7:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commemorating Dylan & the Dead/ Hey AR

Oh gosh. I have nothing against Akron. What's Akron? But if it DID buy a house in the Cleveland burbs, it would have to be in ... Parma!(See if that flushes anyone out, since that's really the Great Cleveland Game: East Siders ragging on West Siders and, presumably, vice versa. The River One Cannot Cross.)

I thought of flying to this one, but ultimately I was too lazy. Then a few weeks later, Jerry was in a coma and boy, did I feel bad about missing it. Maybe not a Great One, but historic, and it looked like an Almost Last One there for a while.

This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2011-07-02 14:08:56

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jul 2, 2011 11:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commemorating Dylan & the Dead/ Hey AR

Do I need to repeat the Akron joke that I recently posted here?

So convenient that us Clevelanders and former Clevelanders have places like Akron and Parma to look down upon.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 2, 2011 7:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commemorating Dylan & the Dead/ Hey AR

Well, you do know the Cleveland Tourism Board slogan, right? "Cleveland: We're Not Detroit!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM

This, of course, is proof that it's way better to be from Cleveland (or Akron or Detroit) than, say, Happy Sunny Hawaii. Lots more material :-)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 2, 2011 12:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commemorating Dylan & the Dead/ Hey AR

And you can include yourself with AR, buddy. ;-)

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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Jul 2, 2011 8:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commemorating Dylan & the Dead/ Hey AR

If I recall from my law school days at Case, Parma is without a doubt the classiest of all Cleveland suburbs. (tongue in cheek, recalling my days on Coventry Road in Cleveland Heights)

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 2, 2011 8:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commemorating Dylan & the Dead/ Hey AR

There ya go. Love the pink flamingos!

Want to bet that every one-time Cleveland denizen hereabouts will turn out to have lived in Coventry? (Or, alternately, Hessler St or Little Italy.) I'm not sure tie dye is allowed anywhere else :-)

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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Jul 2, 2011 8:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commemorating Dylan & the Dead/ Hey AR

It was a great neighborhood. And you're probably right about the tie-dye. lol

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jul 2, 2011 8:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commemorating Dylan & the Dead -- Worst Ohio Show? Probably.

07-02-86 - The Rubber Bowl, University of Akron, Akron, Oh.

1: Alabama> Greatest, TLEO, Rooster*, Don't Think Twice*> Baby Blue*, Candyman, Me & My Uncle> Mexicali> Don't Ease
2: China Cat> I Know You Rider, Playin> Desolation Row**> Drumz> Truckin> Black Peter> Sugar Magnolia E: Box Of Rain
*with Bob Dylan; **without Jerry; only "Don't Think Twice" - Dylan, Petty & The Heartbreakers opened

Source: http://www.archive.org/details/gd1986-07-02.nak100.cohen.105444.sbeok.flac16

Bob Dylan’s first onstage appearance with the GD came in the somewhat less-than-auspicious Akron Rubber Bowl. True the band had lit up backwater venues before, but it was just not meant to be in Akron. There is no single thing that killed this show. Partly it was because Dylan’s appearances with the Dead were generally bad, partly because it was the first of these collaborations, and partly because he sounds drunk. But part of the problem was certainly that Jerry’s health was on the brink – he would slip into a diabetic coma a little more than a week later. Still, there are a few nuggets here if you don’t mind skipping around.

For the first time ever, Bob Dylan gets on stage with the Dead for a few numbers and quickly renders the music nearly unlistenable. Things just get worse and worse until Jerry finally steps in on the vocals for Baby Blue. Imagine Jerry’s vocals sounding like a breath of fresh air on this of all nights. Yes, Dylan was that bad at the Rubber Bowl. Everything after that sounds great by comparison. Standard first set songs played well.

China> Rider starts things out nicely, with a brisk pace and lots of nice noodling from Jerry to keep it together. Playin also gets fair treatment. Nothing insane, but a nice jam. finally Jerry just up and leaves the stage during Desolation Row. What a night. Desolation turns out to be pretty good, even sans Jerry. Post-space Truckin is brief and uninspired, with some wild Bobby wailing, and Peter is also sub-par, with a lot of missed harmonies. Jerry sounds beat. Bob coughs up a lyric on Sugar Mag (or was he laughing?), but they end it with a push. Bob captures the worn-out spirit with a throaty refrain to end it. Box of Rain makes it official. Worst Dead show in Ohio? Probably some competition from ’94 in that department.